FEDERAL ELECTORAL BOUNDARIES COMMISSION
FOR QUEBEC
2003
DISPOSITION BY THE COMMISSION
PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION 23(1) OF
THE ELECTORAL BOUNDARIES
READJUSTMENT ACT OF
OBJECTIONS FILED BY MEMBERS OF THE
HOUSE OF COMMONS WITH RESPECT
TO THE COMMISSION'S
REPORT DATED MARCH 14, 2003
Introduction
[1] Pursuant to the proposals that it published in the Supplement to
the Canada Gazette, Part I, on August 31, 2002 (hereinafter
sometimes "the proposals"), and that were distributed across Quebec, and
the public hearings that it held in 14 different locations in the
province, the Federal Electoral Boundaries Commission for Quebec (hereinafter
"the Commission"), after deliberation and in accordance with subsection 20(1)
of the Electoral Boundaries Readjustment Act, R.S.C. 1985,
s. E-3 (hereinafter "the Act"), prepared a report to be
tabled in the House of Commons, dated March 14, 2003 (hereinafter sometimes
"the report"), in which it set out its considerations and proposals concerning
the division of the province into electoral districts, the descriptions and
boundaries of the districts and the population and name to be given to each
district.
[2] The report outlined with reasons, numerous modifications to the
proposals.
[3] On July 18, 2003, the Commission received the objections to its
report, detailed in the Forty-third Report of the Standing Committee on
Procedure and House Affairs (hereinafter "the Committee"), extracts of
the minutes of the Subcommittee on Electoral Boundaries Readjustment
(hereinafter "the Subcommittee") and the evidence that was heard.
[4] That date is the starting point for the period allowed by
subsection 23(1) of the Act to consider and dispose of the
objections.
[5] At the invitation of the Standing Committee, which the Commission
thanks for its valued input during its deliberations, while pointing out
that it is not bound by the Committee's recommendations, the Commission,
an independent body whose members read all the available testimony and
numerous other documents, thoroughly studied the objections, along with
the observations and recommendations formulated in the Forty-third report
of the Committee and disposes herein of the objections in accordance with
the Act, while trying to respond to the desires expressed, subject to the
applicable rules and criteria and to the fact that the Act does not require
it to adopt to the viewpoints of members of the House of Commons.
[6] During its review, the Commission examined the relevant elements
of its report and the comments, views, opinions and desires it had previously
heard.
[7] This additional consideration, in light of the report of the
Standing Committee and the objections, did not lead the Commission to
conclude that it must modify the general principles that it adopted in
its report (the reader is invited to refer to the Commission's complete
report of March 14, 2003), and generally speaking and without
limitations, amongst others:
- the principles in section 15 of the Act, as
interpreted;
- the electoral quotient for the province, set at
96,500 inhabitants for both urban and
rural electoral districts;
- an effective representation consistent with isonomy,
in this case, the highly democratic principle of "one
person one vote";
- a fair and equitable individual parity across Quebec as
a whole for all citizens of the province, urban and rural, as
part of a reasonable and just effort to attain the objective
of intraprovincial representation departing only occasionally
from a tolerable deviation of 10%, which, according
to the Committee "in general, this is not an objectionable
policy" (par. 10 of the English
text/par. 9 of the French text);
- a reluctance, in the interests of justice and equity
for the population of Quebec as a whole, to make decisions
involving significant deviations from the provincial quotient,
remembering, however, that differences can exist between
urban electoral districts and rural, northern and sparsely
populated districts;
- a respect for the communities of interest and/or communities
of identity of electoral districts and/or their historical pattern,
and respect for the regional county municipalities (hereinafter
"RCMs"), geographical entities to which many witnesses felt most
attached, with the administrative region being subsidiary. The
Commission sought throughout to give a high degree of consideration
to the concerns of citizens ;
- the need for adjustments that stemmed not only from population
movements, but also very often from anomalies necessarily resulting
from previous readjustments, such as urban electoral districts with
undesirably high quotients or rural electoral districts with
unacceptably low quotients, as explained in the proposals. All of
these produced a domino effect of changes that were not arbitrary
but, in fact, required by the principles adopted;
- the maintenance, as much as possible, of the historical
pattern with respect to both boundaries and names, which is
what was requested by 37 of the 54 MPs heard, under the
heading of "status quo";
- accepting all these requests, despite the deviations noted
in the proposals, would have been a very simple solution for the
Commission to discharge the mandate, obligations and responsibilities
conferred on it by the Act;
- naming districts, using no more than two elements, designed
to be as representative as possible and chosen on toponymic
principles, without making reference to all the geographical,
historical and other elements that some would have liked to have
seen incorporated;
- an attentive consideration, respectful of the Act and the
principles adopted, of the wishes expressed by those most
concerned.
[8] Thus, the Commission, sensitive to the concerns expressed,
attentively studied each of the objections, which were sometimes
based on grounds that had already been submitted and reviewed,
and attempted to make its decisions in a spirit of openness and
equity.
[9] In making its decisions, the Commission took account of the
30 objections to its report of March 14, 2003, and the
312 written representations, 199 briefs and 214 representations
made during the public hearings after the proposals of
August 31, 2002.
Montréal
[10] The Island, and thus the City, of Montréal has 18 federal
electoral districts.
[11] Two MPs submitted objections to the boundaries of these
18 electoral districts, Mrs. Marlene Jennings,
Member of Parliament for Notre-Dame-de-GrâceLachine and
Mrs. Eleni Bakopanos, Member of Parliament for
Ahuntsic, that, in the opinion of the Commission, call for relatively
unimportant territorial changes.
[12] The Committee writes:1
"(c) Recommendations for Montréal
29. As stated previously, we cannot ignore a letter
that had been signed by all 14 [sic]
Members of Parliament from the island of Montreal requesting
that the status quo be maintained. We recognize that a
review of electoral boundaries generally suggests that changes
will be made and that people must be ready to make compromises.
We have heard objections from across the country and know first
hand the impossible task of trying to please everyone. Having
stated the obvious, one thing we cannot accept is changes to
ridings that are made for the sake of change.
30. All of the current ridings on the island of Montreal are
within an acceptable variance from the provincial quotient. Thus,
changes were not legislatively required. For this region in particular,
we are of the opinion that the Commission should take full advantage
of the allowable variance to the provincial quotient as set out in the
legislation.
31. In addition, the Commission must remain cognizant of the
fact that in urban ridings, the territory is much smaller and
there is generally more cohesion because the communities are
closer together. Thus, having ridings that are more populous does
not generally cause a problem.
32. Significantly, we were told that the Commission, in response
to the public consultations held in December 2002, agreed to
reinstate the current boundaries and names (in some cases with very
minor changes) of several of these ridings. It seems unusual that
the Commission would agree to the status quo in some cases and not
in others when the same factors are at play.
33. We would therefore strongly recommend that the current ridings
on the island of Montreal remain unchanged. Even if this is not done,
the objections raised in relation to Notre-Dame-de-Grâce and Ahuntsic
must be addressed. The Commission should focus more closely on the question
of community of interest, and, at the very least, the ridings of Notre-Dame-de-Grâce
and Ahuntsic should be modified to address the Members' concerns."
1 All quotes are verbatim and the Commission has
chosen not to highlight the errors found therein.
Comments
[13] Although, in the 2001 Census, more than 21% of the province's
electoral districts were exceptional electoral districts and 29% had a
variance of between 10% and 25%, the Commission succeeded in proposing
18 electoral districts, the boundaries of which were identical or
virtually identical to those of the 1996 representation order.
[14] Five of these electoral districts were on the Island of Montréal.
[15] And five other Montréal electoral districts underwent minor
territorial changes, affecting less than 7% of their population.
[16] The Commission, on page 105 of its report, wrote:
"The search for the much-requested historical continuity of borders and
the desire to balance Montréal's urban population with its domino effects
are the main sources of the changes made."
[17] The neighbouring electoral districts of PierrefondsDollard
and Lac-Saint-Louis had positive variances greater than 14%.
[18] An equitable parity based on the principles adopted did not therefore
make it possible to preserve the desired status quo.
[19] The changes made produced a domino effect on other electoral districts.
[20] Sixteen of the members of Parliament from Montréal, that is, almost 90%,
did not file objections and can be assumed to be satisfied with the
configurations.
Decision:
[21] The Commission rejects the Committee's recommendation for Montréal.
Notre-Dame-de-GrâceLachine
[22] Mrs. Marlene Jennings, Member of Parliament for Notre-Dame-de-GrâceLachine,
filed an objection calling for the status quo that reads in part:
"…
The result of the Commission's recommendation is a riding
population almost identical to the population of the present
riding. To include Dorval, it must be stated, is acceptable as
this community does share common interests with the former City
of Lachine. Indeed, prior to 1997, most of western Lachine
formed part of the Lac St-Louis federal riding along with the
former City of Dorval. Therefore, the Commission's recommendation
to include the former city of Dorval with that of Lachine, can be
viewed as appropriate in that it respects the legislative criteria
of community interests based upon historical facts. Formerly, both
formed part of the same federal riding and residents of both former
municipalities have created many community associations and groups
serving all their residents.
What is objectionable, however, is the division of the NDG
community into two retaining the western half of the
NDGLachine riding while displacing the eastern half to another
federal riding, that of WestmountVille-Marie.
Let us now examine whether the Commission's proposed boundary amendment,
as it pertains to the NDG community, respects the second set of criteria,
that of community of interest, cultural identity or historic evolution
as prescribed under the Canada Elections Act.
…
With this as a background, I would propose one of the two
following options, in order of preference:
. A first option would be to preserve the current
boundaries, with Décarie remaining as the eastern boundary.
. A second option would be to accept the FEBC(Q)'s
recommendation that Dorval be added to the NDGLachine riding,
but that the NDG portion of the existing riding itself remain intact
according the community of interest and other arguments outlined above.
This second option, while expanding the total number of constituents
to approximately 115,000-116,000 (8-9% above
the provincial average), would still maintain the population well below
the 25% cap set above the provincial average."
[23] The Committee's conclusion was presented in paragraphs
32 and 33 of its report.
Comments
[24] No objections were filed by the members of Parliament for
the surrounding electoral districts, which suggests they are
satisfied with the boundaries.
[25] In the opinion of the Commission, there was a need to
balance the electoral districts on the Island of Montréal,
particularly the western portion, because they significantly
exceeded the norms adopted. The Commission thus reconfigured
the western portion of the electoral district of
Notre-Dame-de-GrâceLachine by adding the former municipalities
of Dorval and Île-Dorval.
[26] While the Commission was able to retain the northern
boundaries from the 1996 representation order, the existing
populations forced the transfer of a sector to another portion of
the former municipality of Notre-Dame-de-Grâce in the electoral
district of WestmountVille-Marie, with which it has an affinity.
[27] Statistics Canada data indicate that adding the sector
suggested by the objector would give this electoral district a
population of 120,969, a variance of
plus 25.4%.
Decision
[28] The objection is dismissed.
Ahuntsic
[29] Mrs. Eleni Bakopanos, Member of Parliament for Ahuntsic,
presented an objection calling for the status quo that reads in
part:
"…
We ask that the present boundaries of the electoral
district of Ahuntsic be retained.
…
In addition, we firmly believe that effect of the Commission's
recommendation that the eastern boundary of the electoral district
of Ahuntsic be changed will be to jeopardize the existing community
of interest and community of identity, which is contrary to the
principles of the Act.
…
In the alternative, if the Committee were to conclude that the electoral
map of the district of Ahuntsic must absolutely be changed, we suggest
that the Commission instead exclude the section of the district located
in the St-Michel neighbourhood, which does not at present have any community
of interest with the rest of the constituency."
[30] The Committee writes:
"25. Ms. Bakopanos argued that the Commission was much
too restrictive in trying to match the provincial quotient
on the island of Montréal. She noted that the legislation
allows for variances of up to 25%, but that the Commission made
changes to several ridings on the island even though they were
nowhere near this limit. In the case of Ahuntsic, the variance
would be +9.7% if it retained its current boundaries.
26. Ms. Bakopanos explained to the Subcommittee that the objection
she raised was firmly supported locally, including the Ahuntsic-Cartierville
Borough Council. She made it very clear that the proposed change would
jeopardize the existing community of interest and community of identity
that exists in this area. Many of the voters who would be removed from
the riding are served by the same local institutions as those who would
remain in the riding.
27. Ms. Bakopanos argued that the changes being made were
pointless alterations that produce no public interest and were
based purely on mathematics. She indicated how the current
boundaries are dictated by geography, the major road transportation
axes and municipal division.
28. Ms. Bakopanos indicated that if any change was absolutely required,
it would have been much more logical to remove the section of the riding
located in the Saint-Michel neighbourhood, which does not, at present,
have any community of interest with the rest of the riding."
Comments
[31] No objections were filed by the members of Parliament for
the surrounding electoral districts, which suggests they are
satisfied with the boundaries.
[32] The southern boundaries of the electoral district were
not touched because of the domino effect this could have had
on other electoral districts.
[33] The minor modifications affected less than 6% of the
population compared with the status quo.
[34] The demography of the sectors the objector wants to
exchange is similar.
[35] The 27 boroughs of the new City of Montréal must be
divided up among 18 federal electoral districts.
[36] The Commission still feels that, under the circumstances,
the configuration described in the report is quite consistent with
the applicable criteria.
Decision
[37] The objection is dismissed.
Laval
[38] The two objections filed by the members of Parliament for
Laval concern only the proposed names.
[39] Neither concerns the division of this city into electoral
districts nor the proposed boundaries.
[40] The Committee writes:
"34. Two of the members of Parliament for Laval appeared before
the Subcommittee to object to the proposed names for the ridings in this
area. In the context of these discussions and other less formal discussions,
we are of the opinion that significant changes are required in relation
to the Laval ridings. The objections are set out below and they are followed
by our recommendations for the area."
[41] The two objections concerning the proposed names made
by Mrs. Raymonde Folco, Member of Parliament
for Laval West, and Mrs. Carole-Marie Allard,
Member of Parliament for Laval East, will be studied and commented
on later; for the moment, we will concern ourselves with the major
reconfiguration suggested by the Committee.
[42] The Committee's comments must be quoted in their entirety:
"44. More importantly, we recommend that the Laval region be
constituted of only three electoral ridings. It is clear that the
Commission felt that the growth in this area required adding a new
half riding. We do not agree and note that the fourth proposed riding
involved two distinct areas with little in common. In creating this
riding, the criteria of community of interest, community of identity
and historical pattern were simply ignored. This is a solution we
cannot accept.
45. Our solution is to retain the three current ridings with
minor boundary changes in order to better balance the population.
We propose the following boundaries:
- Laval West: commencing at the Rivière des Prairies
northerly along Autoroute des Laurentides to Notre-Dame
Boulevard; thence easterly along said boulevard to
Curé-Labelle Boulevard; thence northerly along
said boulevard to the hydroelectric transmission line lying
south of Edith Street; thence easterly along said transmission
line to the north-south hydroelectric transmission line;
thence northerly along said north-south transmission line to
where it intersects the Rivière des Milles Îles.
- Laval East: commencing at the Rivière des Prairies
northerly along Boulevard des Laurentides to St-Martin
Boulevard; thence westerly along said boulevard to the Canadian
Pacific Railway; thence northerly along said railway to the
east-west hydroelectric transmission line lying
north of Papillon Street; thence easterly along said east-west
transmission line to René-Laenneck Boulevard; thence
northerly along the production of said boulevard (as projected in
the development plans of the City of Laval) to Riopelle Street;
thence along said street to Boulevard des Laurentides; thence
northerly along said boulevard to Papineau Avenue; thence northwesterly
along said avenue to Athanase-David Bridge.
46. These boundaries would produce the following population counts
and variances from the provincial quotient:
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Laval West:
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112,000 and +16.7% |
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Laval Centre:
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116,216 and +20.4% |
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Laval East:
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114,196 and +18.3% |
47. It is important to note that this recommendation allows us
to add a new riding elsewhere in Quebec, an option that became
extremely important to address the concern of under-representation
in rural Quebec.
[43] There is no consensus on where to put the electoral
district created by the Committee:
"51. Mr. Gagnon raised concerns that the proposed changes
would mean that the Mauricie region would lose a Member of
Parliament, which would result in the loss of one-third
of its representation. This was unacceptable, according to
Mr. Gagnon. He therefore recommended the
status quo for the current riding of Champlain.
52. We are of the opinion that Mr. Gagnon
has presented compelling arguments that cannot be ignored. As a
result of our changes in the Laval region, there is an electoral
district that is effectively "up for grabs" in Quebec. As stated
earlier, certain members of the Subcommittee were of the opinion
that the Mauricie region could benefit to a greater extent from
this addition. Others, meanwhile, were of the opinion that the
extra riding should be allocate to the SaguenayLac-Saint-Jean
region.
53. It is clear that if the riding is added to the Mauricie area, that
will have consequences throughout the region. We would recommend maintaining
the status quo (1997) with only minor modifications if they are absolutely
necessary."
[44] And later the Committee adds:
"74. We are extremely sympathetic to the objections of
these four members (Mr. Sébastien Gagnon,
Member of Parliament for Lac-Saint-JeanSaguenay;
Mrs. Jocelyne Girard-Bujold, Member of
Parliament for Jonquière; Mr. André
Harvey, Member of Parliament for ChicoutimiLe Fjord; and
Mr. Michel Gauthier, Member of Parliament for
Roberval) and find their arguments compelling. It is clear that
the loss of a riding in a region is extremely difficult to
swallow, a problem that is exacerbated in the case of regions
facing economic and other related difficulties. As indicated
previously, members of the Subcommittee debated at length whether
a riding should be added to this area. The Subcommittee was
unable to reach a consensus on where the additional riding
available for rural Quebec should be allocated."
Comments
[45] No objections were filed by the members of Parliament for the
surrounding electoral districts, which suggests they are satisfied with
the boundaries.
[46] The Committee does not cite any specific request nor any support
from the population of the region or from Laval authorities nor the
source of its "other less formal discussions" to reduce the representation
of the populations of the City of Laval and the adjacent northern region.
[47] The Commission received much information outlining the close
links that unite the populations of Laval and the adjacent northern
region.
[48] The sociodemographic profile on both sides of the Mille Îles
River is homogenous.
[49] The communities are often active in the same sporting, cultural
and community organizations.
[50] Transportation links are easy and a number of Government of
Canada services are grouped in the Laval/Rive-Nord sector.
[51] Laval municipal authorities and certain organizations from
the adjacent northern region have indicated their support.
[52] The new configuration ensures the equitable respect of
intraprovincial parity, which would not be possible otherwise.
Decision
[53] The Commission maintains the City of Laval and adjacent
northern region configuration.
Mauricie
[54] Mr. Marcel Gagnon, Member of Parliament for Champlain, filed
an objection calling for the status quo in the following terms:
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"A- |
The current district of Champlain is too big for an
MP to be able to cover the area effectively and satisfactorily serve
the population. |
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B- |
The geographical size would remain virtually the same
if the City of Shawinigan were added and Cap-de-la-Madeleine, Sainte-Marthe
and St-Louis-de-France were removed, but the number of voters would
increase by approximately 11,000, for a total population
of 97,893. |
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C- |
The people of the RCM of Les Chenaux have no community
of interest with the City of Shawinigan; their lives are bound up
with Trois-Rivières, which is also their business centre. |
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D- |
The new electoral boundaries will cause the Mauricie
Region to lose an MP. The region needs all of its representatives
and all of its power, and it is unacceptable for it to lose one third
of its representation in Ottawa. |
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E- |
I recommend that the riding of Champlain remain as
it is now." |
[55] The Committee writes:
"50. Mr. Gagnon also indicated that the RCM of Les Chenaux
has no community of interest with the city of Shawinigan. Rather,
it is associated socially and economically with Trois-Rivières.
51. Mr. Gagnon raised concerns that the proposed changes would
mean that the Mauricie region would lose a Member of Parliament,
which would result in the loss of one third of its representation.
This was unacceptable, according to Mr. Gagnon.
He therefore recommended the status quo for the current riding
of Champlain.
52. We are of the opinion that Mr. Gagnon has presented
compelling arguments that cannot be ignored. As a result of
our changes in the Laval region, there is an electoral district
that is effectively "up for grabs" in Quebec. As stated earlier,
certain members of the Subcommittee were of the opinion that
the Mauricie region could benefit to a greater extent from this
addition. Others, meanwhile, were of the opinion that the extra
riding should be allocate to the SaguenayLac-Saint-Jean
region.
53. It is clear that if the riding is added to the Mauricie area, that
will have consequences throughout the region. We would recommend maintaining
the status quo (1997) with only minor modifications if they are absolutely
necessary."
Comments
[56] No objections were filed by the members of Parliament
for the surrounding electoral districts, which suggests they
are satisfied with the boundaries.
[57] The need to reconfigure the region because of its
demographic deficit, the reality of the new City of Trois-Rivières
and respect for the integrity of the RCMs meant that it was not
possible to maintain the status quo while respecting the principle
of intraprovincial equity.
[58] The new City of Shawinigan is located in the centre
of the electoral district, as is Road No. 155 leading
to La Tuque.
[59] Mauricie, which keeps the electoral districts of
Trois-Rivières and Saint-MauriceChamplain, also occupies a
predominant place in the electoral district of BerthierMaskinongé.
Decision
[60] The objection is dismissed.
Québec City area and Côte-Nord
[61] Mr. Ghislain Fournier, Member of Parliament for Manicouagan,
filed an objection that reads in part:
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"… |
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Whereas, owing to the lack of transportation infrastructures,
certain parts of the electoral district can be accessed only by plane,
boat or helicopter in summer or snowmobile in winter; |
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Whereas the lack of communication infrastructures in
certain areas makes it difficult to communicate using new technologies; |
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Whereas the population of Manicouagan, which was assessed
at 52,561 inhabitants in the 2001 Census,
is distributed over 268,000 km2; that
is, an area that is 22 times the size of the average electoral
district; |
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Whereas, pursuant to the Elections Act, every individual
is entitled to a Member of Parliament who is present and not constantly
travelling in the electoral district; |
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Whereas there is a great disparity and diversity of
needs between the residents of the Lower North Shore and the residents
of the Baie-Comeau area; |
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Whereas the Commission undertook to respect only one
aspect to the Act, namely the 10% discrepancy rule, without taking
into consideration the other important aspect of this legislation;
that is, the area to cover in order to achieve objectives; |
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Whereas the briefs submitted and presentations made
during hearings held in Sept-Îles unanimously support
maintaining the current boundaries; |
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That the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs
object to the electoral boundaries proposed by the Federal Electoral
Boundaries Commission for Quebec for the electoral district of Manicouagan,
and that it maintain the boundaries in effect before the August 31,
2002 recommendation." |
[62] The Committee writes:
"65. The Committee agrees with the objections that were
raised in relation to this region. There is no doubt that
the riding of Manicouagan is an extraordinary riding and that
the Commission should have utilized the discretion granted in
the legislation to allow a variance from the provincial quotient
of more than -25%, in this case -45%. We are quite aware that
such a solution cannot be used excessively. However, if the
riding of Manicouagan is not considered to be a proper case for
the use of the discretion granted in the legislation, we do not
see when this power would ever be used and why it would have
been set out in the legislation.
66. We also note that the changes made to the other ridings in
this area are as a result of the Commission's decision not to
grant extraordinary status to Manicouagan. This means that the
option of recommending the status quo in this area is available
to us and is entirely appropriate. This Committee cannot accept
change for the sake of change. The other current ridings involved
are: Charlesvoix, BeauportMontmorencyCote-de-BeaupréIle-d'Orléans,
CharlesbourgJacques-Cartier, Louis-Hébert, Quebec,
Quebec East, and Portneuf.
67. Our recommendation is supported by every witness who appeared before
the Subcommittee, as well as other members of Parliament who indicated
their support by way of conversations with Subcommittee members. In
fact, an opened letter published in Le Soleil indicated that
all Members of Parliament in this region favoured the status quo. In
our opinion, our recommendation would lead to more effective and efficient
representation, particularly in the riding of Manicouagan."
Comments
[63] The electoral district had a variance of minus 45.5%
in the 2001 census.
[64] The size of the territory, of which some 90% is uninhabited,
does not justify exceptional status when compared with the electoral
districts of Baie-JamesNunavik and GaspésieÎles-de-la-Madeleine.
[65] The City of Baie-Comeau, which was added to the electoral
district, neighbours Franquelin, the last locale in the current
electoral district of Manicouagan. It is the nerve centre of the
RCM of Manicouagan, which is entirely within the same electoral district.
[66] While the needs of the population of the Baie-Comeau Region
are different from those of the Basse-Côte-Nord, they resemble
those of the Sept-Îles Region.
[67] No objections were filed for the electoral districts of
Beauport, Charlesbourg, Louis-Hébert, Québec and Louis-Saint-Laurent
which, located entirely within the new City of Québec, might be subject
to a domino effect if there were a return to the status quo for the electoral
district of Manicouagan.
Decision
[68] The objection is dismissed.
[69] Mr. Gérard Asselin, Member of Parliament for Charlevoix,
the electoral district adjacent to Manicouagan, supported the objection
of his colleague from Manicouagan, stating:
"Therefore:
We call upon the Standing Committee on Procedure and House
Affairs to oppose the changes in the boundaries of the ridings
of Charlevoix and Manicouagan proposed by the Federal Electoral
Boundaries Commission for Quebec. We call upon the Committee to
maintain the existing boundaries for Charlevoix and Manicouagan,
and to give Manicouagan exceptional status as authorized by the
Electoral Boundaries Readjustment Act with respect to riding
size."
[70] The Committee's recommendations concerning this objection were
cited previously (see Manicouagan).
Comments
[71] The electoral district takes in all of four RCMs in Quebec's
National Capital Region and the RCM La Haute-Côte-Nord, which
was already part of it and has a similar emphasis on tourism. It also
takes in part of the borough of Beauport, which serves as a link to
Orléans Island.
[72] It respects the principle of intraprovincial parity more
than the status quo could have.
[73] Returning to the status quo would have a domino effect on the
neighbouring electoral districts of the new City of Québec, for
which no objections were filed.
Decision
[74] The objection is dismissed.
[75] Mr. Claude Duplain, Member of Parliament for the electoral
district of Portneuf, filed an objection calling for the status quo
that reads:
"That the House Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs
review the following objection:
Whereas a major imbalance stemming from the new distribution of
the population would lead to the riding of Portneuf losing
4,471 voters.
Whereas there is a major disparity between the sectors.
Whereas an important area would find itself hemmed in by the new
proposal."
[76] The Committee's recommendations concerning this objection were
cited previously (see Manicouagan).
Comments
[77] Pursuant to the representations, part of the RCM La
Jacques-Cartier was returned to Portneuf to keep it whole.
[78] The new configuration provides greater parity for the entire
Québec and Côte-Nord regions; it is also more consistent with
the reality of the new City of Québec.
[79] It allowed to incorporate many of the recommendations
formulated in the briefs and during the public hearings.
[80] No objections were filed for the electoral districts of
Beauport, Charlesbourg, Louis-Hébert, Québec and
Louis-Saint-Laurent, which are located entirely within the new City
of Québec.
Decision
[81] The objection is dismissed.
SaguenayLac-Saint-Jean
[82] Mr. Sébastien Gagnon, Member of Parliament for
Lac-Saint-JeanSaguenay, asks in his objection:
"And that the Standing Committee on Procedure and House
Affairs oppose the electoral boundaries for the Saguenay-Lac-St-Jean
region proposed by the Federal Electoral Boundaries Commission for
Quebec, and insist on the retention of the region's four ridings."
[83] Mrs. Jocelyne Girard Bujold, Member of Parliament for Jonquière,
presents substantially the same request.
[84] Mr. Michel Gauthier, Member of Parliament for Roberval, filed the
following objection:
"…
The reform provides for the elimination of an electoral
district in the Saguenay-Lac-St-Jean region, reducing the
number of districts from four to three. This would reduce the
political impact of the region within Quebec's parliamentary
deputation. In addition, by being moved from the Roberval district
to the James Bay-Nunavik district, the cities of Chibougamau
and Chapais would be transferred from the Saguenay region to the
Abitibi region, which is difficult to justify from either the
geographical or regional economic standpoint."
[85] Mr. André Harvey, Member of Parliament for ChicoutimiLe Fjord,
filed an objection on similar grounds that concludes:
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"I PROPOSE THAT: |
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1. |
The Saguenay-Lac-Saint-Jean region continue to
be represented by four MPs, and continue to have four counties |
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2. |
The boundaries of the Chicoutimi-Le Fjord district
remain the same except for the addition of the municipalities of St-Fulgence,
Ste-Rose-du-Nord and the southern portions of St-Paul and St-Pierre |
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3. |
The district retain the name Chicoutimi-Le Fjord." |
[86] The Committee writes:
"74. We are extremely sympathetic to the objections of these
four members and find their arguments compelling. It is clear
that the loss of a riding in a region is extremely difficult to
swallow, a problem that is exacerbated in the case of regions
facing economic and other related difficulties. As indicated
previously, members of the Subcommittee debated at length whether
a riding should be added to this area. The Subcommittee was unable
to reach a consensus on where the additional riding available for
rural Quebec should be allocated."
Comments
[87] The Commission was faced with three electoral districts in
this region with a deviation of more than minus 25%.
[88] Intraprovincial parity thus made the status quo unacceptable.
[89] The transfer of the cities of Chibougamau and Chapais and
the Oujé-Bougoumou Indian Reserve to the electoral district
of Baie-JamesNunavik has no influence on the number of electoral
districts in SaguenayLac-Saint-Jean.
[90] When reconfiguring the electoral districts, the Commission
took into account the boroughs of the new City of Saguenay and the
specific requests made.
Decision
[91] The objection of the MPs from SaguenayLac-Saint-Jean is
dismissed.
Baie-JamesNunavik
[92] Mr. Guy St-Julien, Member of Parliament for
AbitibiBaie-JamesNunavik presented an objection
proposing, among other things, that:
"…
The city of Amos and the surrounding area be included in the
electoral district of BaieJamesNunavik…
…
The regional municipality of Kativik, including the northern
village municipalities …, be included in a special electoral district…
… "
[93] The Committee writes:
"77. One proposal included a request that the city of Amos and
surrounding areas be included in this proposed riding. We accept this
suggestion and note that it is not only supported by Mr. St-Julien,
but more importantly, also by the people of Amos themselves. Therefore,
we find it very difficult to justify a rejection of this suggestion. We
are fully aware that this would mean splitting an RCM, which should be
avoided when possible. The wishes of a community are more important,
however.
78. Another proposal suggested the creation of an extraordinary
riding which would include the Kativik Regional Government. We are
sympathetic to this request but acknowledge that it cannot be acceded
to at this time. The addition of a riding to the province of Quebec
at this point would basically require a re-drawing of all ridings in
the province, a suggestion that is not practical.
79. It should also be noted that Mr. St-Julien
was pleased with the addition of the Chibougamau-Chapais region to
the proposed riding. He is opposed to any transfer of this region back
to its current riding. This is a very contentious issue, made obvious
by the conflicting objections made by Mr. St-Julien
and Mr. Gauthier. Even at the local level, there is no
unanimity as to where this area should be located for the purposes of
electoral boundaries. We were made aware of the conflicting wishes of the
mayor of Chibougamau and its councillors. We would note, however, that this
area is currently in the riding of Roberval. Furthermore, with the addition
of the residents of Amos and surrounding areas to the Baie-James
riding, that riding could become very difficult to represent effectively
based on its immense size and the increased population."
Comments
[94] Keeping the RCMs intact, whenever possible, was a constant
concern for the Commission.
[95] Since the City of Amos does not border the electoral district
of Baie-JamesNunavik, it would have to take certain territories
with it.
[96] Detaching Amos and its environs from its RCM and dismembering it
to increase the population of the largest federal electoral district of
Quebec and one of the largest electoral districts in Canada is not
acceptable.
[97] Notwithstanding the sympathy it feels for the population of
the Kativik Regional Government, the Commission has already announced
its position on adding a new electoral district and, out of concern
for intraprovincial parity, cannot accede to this request.
[98] The unanimous desire to attach Oujé-Bougoumou to
the electoral district of Baie-JamesNunavik made it possible
to put the entire Cree community together, which has a cascading
effect on the neighbouring cities of Chibougamau and Chapais, which
are part of the Baie-James Region and on which the opinions were
mixed.
Decision
[99] The objection is dismissed.
ComptonStanstead
[100] Mr. David Price, Member of Parliament for the electoral
district of ComptonStanstead, filed an objection, in which
he states:
"…
For reasons of affinity I am objecting to the commission's
decision to add the former City of Bromptonville to the riding
of Compton-Stanstead instead of adding the former Town of
Lennoxville (currently a proposed area of the Sherbrooke riding).
The former Town of Lennoxville with a population of 4952 people
has similar characteristics and a strong relationship with the
semi-rural riding of Compton-Stanstead. The citizens
of Lennoxville already identify with Compton-Stanstead as their
riding and frequently use the services of the Compton-Stanstead
riding office.
Whereas, the former City of Bromptonville with a population of
6013 people, is largely an industrial town and has no direct
relationship to the semi-rural riding of Compton-Stanstead.
On the other hand, it has strong ties to the riding of Sherbrooke
and the City of Sherbrooke, with whom it borders.
Therefore, I am proposing that the former Town of Lennoxville
become part of the Riding of Compton Stanstead and that the former
City of Bromptonville become part of the riding of Sherbrooke.
The above proposal is supported by the two Member's of Parliament
directly affected (Compton-Stanstead and Sherbrooke), the three Member's
of Parliament from the surrounding ridings (Richmond-Arthabaska,
Brome-Missisquoi and Frontenac-Mégantic), as well as the Ville
de Sherbrooke borough presidents for Lennoxville and Bromptonville."
[101] The Committee accepted the MP's objection in these terms:
"82. We agree with Mr. Price that the current proposal is
illogical in this respect and recommend that the Commission make
the appropriate readjustment. We note that this would have no real
impact on the populations of the affected ridings."
Comments
[102] The former City of Lennoxville is part of the current urban
electoral district of Sherbrooke under the 1996 representation order,
and has been so since 1966.
[103] The former City of Bromptonville is part of the current
urban-rural electoral district of RichmondArthabaska,
under the 1996 representation order, and, since 1947, has been
part of a similar territory where the word Richmond was always part of the
name of the riding.
[104] Here again, the Commission had tried to preserve the status quo
to the extent it could, changing the existing boundaries as little as
possible.
[105] In any case, the Committee's recommendation is accepted. This
readjustment, which has the support of all the interested parties and
authorities in the boroughs concerned, is not inconsistent with the principles
adopted.
Decision
[106] The objection is accepted.
Outaouais and Laurentians
[107] Mr. Mark Assad, Member of Parliament for Gatineau, filed an
objection that reads:
"That the House Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs
review the following objection: "the inclusion of the former cities
of Buckingham and Masson-Angers in the new riding of Pontiac". I
give the following reasons.
Apart from the fact that the Commission is required to keep as closely
as possible to the established standard and consider, where applicable, any
special circumstances in terms of the population in setting boundaries for
new districts, the Commission must also in its proposals take account of:
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the community of interest or community of identity
in, or the historical pattern of, an electoral district |
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a manageable geographic size for districts in sparsely populated,
rural or northern regions of the province. |
In the report submitted by the Commission to the House of Commons on
March 28, 2003, these two principles were not considered. Indeed,
the Commission did not take into account the fact that there is no community
of interest or community of identity or even a similar historical pattern
between Buckingham and Masson-Angers, and Pontiac. Buckingham and Masson-Angers
are important constituents of the new City of Gatineau and they have always
been considered to be an integral part of the National Capital Region. That
is why the community of interest between these two cities is much more with
the City of Gatineau. We thus see no affinity with Fort-Coulonge and the Pontiac,
nor with Maniwaki and Rapid Lake. Moreover, with a geographical area of
31,174 km2, the new district of Pontiac looks much
more like a province than a reasonably sized riding."
[108] The Committee writes:
"84. He stated that there is no community of interest or community of
identity or even a similar historical pattern between Buckingham and
Masson-Angers, and the Pontiac region. He claimed that there was neither
a historical link nor a linguistic affinity. These two regions are
important constituents of the new City of Gatineau and have always been
considered an integral part of the National Capital Region. Mr. Assad
also argued that the new riding of Pontiac is too large and should
not include the two cities.
85. Mr. Assad presented additional information to the Subcommittee
following his presentation. He proposed that part of the former city
of Aylmer be transferred to the Pontiac riding rather than Buckingham
and Masson-Angers. We are unable to support this objection. First, the
transfer of Buckingham and Masson-Angers to Gatineau would result in
Gatineau having a variance of +29% and the Pontiac riding
-29%. While Mr. Assad suggests transferring
parts of Aylmer to Pontiac, no indication is given as to which areas
should be transferred. This suggestion would also seem to require transferring
parts of Gatineau to Hull-Aylmer to make up for its loss. Finally, there
is no indication that such a change would be supported by other Members
of Parliament in the area."
Comments
[109] Mr. Assad asked to return to the boundaries suggested during
the proposals, although there were many objections to that scenario.
[110] The Committee adopted a good position in this case by recognizing
the importance of increasing regional parity.
Decision
[111] The objection is dismissed.
Trois-Seigneuries
[112] Mr. Mario Laframboise, Member of Parliament for
ArgenteuilPapineauMirabel, filed an objection that reads
in part:
"…
- Whereas the Federal Electoral Boundaries Commission for Quebec
took into account demographic concerns only, and not the sense of
belonging felt by local people towards their ridings;
- Whereas the municipality of Saint-Colomban is linked both
geographically and socially with the City of Mirabel, with which
it shares municipal police services;
- whereas the residents of Saint-Colomban have circulated a petition
in favour of merging their municipality with the City of Mirabel;
- Whereas it would be damaging to separate Saint-Colomban
from Mirabel by attaching it to the riding of Laurentides
(Rivière-du-Nord);
- Whereas Saint-Colomban has been part of the riding of Argenteuil--Papineau--Mirabel
since 1933;
Therefore, that the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs
oppose the transfer of the municipality of Saint-Colomban to the neighbouring
riding of Laurentides (Rivière-du-Nord) as proposed for the riding
of Argenteuil--Papineau--Mirabel by the Federal Electoral Boundaries
Commission for Quebec, and that the Committee require that Saint-Colomban
remain within the riding of Argenteuil--Papineau--Mirabel."
[113] The Committee writes:
"88. Mr. Laframboise adds that the only reason such a decision
could have been made is based on the population of the proposed
ridings. He indicated that the population in the Argenteuil-Papineau
region was not increasing and that while Mirabel had seen some increase,
this would be tempered by the closure of the Mirabel Airport in the near
future. He also added that the proposed riding of Rivière-du-Nord
is part of a very dynamic demographic growth zone that should allow it to
make up fairly rapidly any loss of population.
…
90. We strongly support Mr. Laframboise's objection and recommend
that Saint-Colomban be transferred back to the riding of Trois-Seigneuries,
to which it has a close and natural affinity.
91. The Committee realizes its recommendation goes against the general
principle of not splitting RCMs across electoral districts. In general,
the Committee respects the Commission's decision to align riding boundaries
with the RCMs; but in this specific case, given the close attachment of
Saint-Colomban to Mirabel and the riding Argenteuil-Papineau-Mirabel,
and given the long history of this attachment, we believe that community of
interest concerns override the recent provincial redistribution of municipal
boundaries.
…
95. Given the characters of these ridings, particularly the dense,
urban ridings of Montreal, as well as the testimony the Subcommittee
heard describing these particular ridings in particular
that testimony concerning Trois-Seigneuries and Laval we
believe these readjustments are justifiable and would lead to more
effective representation throughout Quebec.
96. We strongly recommend that the Commission adopt the suggestions
presented here and recommend that the boundaries be readjusted as
described above."
Comments
[114] Four electoral districts in the Laurentides and Lanaudière
regions had a deviation of more than plus 25%. Concern for intraprovincial
parity made some changes necessary.
[115] Saint-Colomban is part of the RCM La Rivière-du-Nord, which
is completely within the new federal electoral district of Rivière-du-Nord.
[116] The electoral district of Trois-Seigneuries takes in three complete
RCMs and parts of two others.
[117] The proximity of the new City of Saint-Jérôme, a regional
centre, makes it so that the population of Saint-Colomban uses its services.
[118] The Commission received no objections from the neighbouring electoral
districts.
Decision
[119] The objection is dismissed.
BeauharnoisSalaberry
[120] Mr. Serge Marcil, Member of Parliament for BeauharnoisSalaberry
filed an objection that reads in part:
"…
That the electoral district of Beauharnois-Salaberry be kept
completely intact, which is to say that its composition should
remain the same as it was on November 27, 2000.
The new proposal by the Federal Electoral Boundaries Commission for
Quebec is based strictly on a mathematical calculation without taking
geographical size (currently approximately 2,500km2),
the number of municipalities and communities in the district or communities
of interest into account.
The new proposal is completely different from the first. Why make
such a change unless it is an attempt to address problems in other
electoral districts.
1. Concern to keep the geographical size of rural regions
from becoming too large:
The principle of wanting to combine RCMs under the jurisdiction
of the same MP is a worthwhile objective, but it is not obligatory.
The evidence clearly shows that it is difficult to achieve it in a
mainly rural environment because an electoral district often includes
two RCMs and part of another. Including the whole of the third RCM,
as suggested in the proposal, would increase the number of municipalities
and enlarge the district. It would have a considerable impact on the
MP because the MP would have to deal with a larger number of needs,
more communities, but with the same means. At the moment, it takes
approximately one and a half hours to travel from the westernmost to
the easternmost part of the district by road and it is difficult to
understand why anyone would want to increase the time involved.
It is also important to note that municipal affairs are a matter
of provincial jurisdiction. Relations between the provincial MNA and
the municipal council are much more frequent.
2. Community of interest
Most of the cities, towns or RCMs affected by the changes being
proposed by the Electoral Boundaries Commission for Quebec have
asked that the status quo be maintained.
Saint-Rémi and Saint-Michel have natural social and
economic interests with the City of Châteauguay, the
largest in the region, whereas Saint-Édouard and
Saint-Jacques-le-Mineur have obvious interests that match those
of the City of Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, as Saint-Jean
is the home town for many of the residents of the former.
The 25 per cent rule, more or less, would make it possible
to readily maintain the status quo for the Beauharnois-Salaberry
electoral district, and at the same time it would also make it very
easy for Châteauguay and Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu to incorporate
the municipalities of Saint-Rémi and Saint-Michel, as well as
Saint-Édouard and Saint-Jacques-le-Mineur. An analysis of
demographic growth for Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu and Châteauguay
shows that these two electoral districts will not have reached the
maximum allowable size, even after the next ten years."
[121] The Committee writes:
"100. The Committee notes that the design of Beauharnois-Salaberry
is awkward, with the major road networks requiring considerable indirect
travel to get from one part of the riding to another. It also notes that
Beauharnois-Salaberry is a large, largely rural riding, sharing little
community of interest with the dense, urban eastern corner of the riding as
proposed.
101. According to numbers available from Election Canada,
Mr. Marcil's proposed changes place Beauharnois-Salaberry
at 92,772, with a variance of -3.9% from
the provincial quotient; Châteauguay at 110,977,
with a variance of +15%; and Saint-Jean
at 97,864, with a variance of +1.4%.
102. The Committee believes that given the urban and rural differences
split across these three electoral districts, as portrayed in
Mr. Marcil's proposal and his testimony to the Subcommittee,
these variances are acceptable. It supports Mr. Marcil's
objection and recommends the boundaries be readjusted as he describes."
Comments
[122] No objections were filed by the members of Parliament for
the surrounding electoral districts, which suggests they are satisfied
with the boundaries.
[123] The electoral district contains three whole RCMs, thus respecting
the communities of interests.
[124] The electoral district, in large part, maintains the same boundaries
as in the 1996 representation order, as well as the name it was then
given, the whole in a spirit of historical continuity to respect, as much
as possible, the current configuration.
[125] The new configuration respects intraprovincial parity.
Decision:
[126] The objection is dismissed.
Lower St. Lawrence, Gaspésie
and Chaudières-Appalaches
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a) GaspésieÎles-de-la-Madeleine |
[127] Mr. Georges Farrah, Member of Parliament for
BonaventureGaspésieÎles-de-la-MadeleinePabok
filed an objection, supported by his colleague from the neighbouring
electoral district of MatapédiaMatane, Mr. Jean-Yves
Roy, proposing that the RCM La Haute-Gaspésie be transferred to the
electoral district of MatapédiaMatane, and that the RCM
Avignon become part of the electoral district of
GaspésieÎles-de-la-Madeleine.
[128] The Committee writes:
"109. The Committee strongly supports Mr. Farrah's
suggestions and recommends the boundaries for these two ridings be adjusted
according to his suggestion."
Comments
[129] Moving these RCMs has the support of the two MPs and the
authorities concerned.
[130] This change has no effect on other electoral districts.
[131] This readjustment does not contravene the principles adopted.
Decision
[132] The objection is accepted.
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b) RimouskiTémiscouata and
Rivière-du-LoupMontmagny |
[133] Mr. Paul Crète, Member of Parliament for the current electoral
district of KamouraskaRivière-du-LoupTémiscouataLes Basques
filed an objection that reads in part:
"…
The Federal Electoral Boundaries Commission for Quebec took a step in
the right direction by agreeing to maintain four ridings in the regions of
the Lower St. Lawrence, the Gaspé and the Magdalen
Islands, instead of the three ridings in their original proposal, and by
respecting the boundaries of the Regional County Municipalities (RCMs).
However, the decision to divide the riding of
Kamouraska--Rivière-du-Loup--Témiscouata--Les Basques
in two, putting the RCMs of Les Basques and Témiscouata with the
municipality of Rimouski and the RCM of Rimouski-Neigette to form the new
riding of Rimouski--Témiscouata, and putting the RCMs of
Rivière-du-Loup and Kamouraska with the RCM of Montmagny et l'Islet
to form the new riding of Montmagny--Rivière-du-Loup, would break
a natural economic, social and cultural region in two pieces and create a
riding overlapping the two separate administrative regions of Bas-Saint-Laurent
and Chaudière-Les Appalaches. Its Member of Parliament would then
have to work with two different regional offices of Canada Economic Development
and Human Resources Canada.
I suggest that the four ridings be maintained in eastern Quebec,
including one exceptional riding justified by the geographical reality
of the Magdalen Islands.
I therefore propose that the existing riding of
Kamouraska--Rivière-du-Loup--Témiscouata--Les Basques
be maintained, and I suggest the boundaries set out on the following page for the
four ridings of eastern Quebec.
However, whatever boundaries are finally chosen, I would ask that you name
the riding after the RCMs it groups together."
[134] The Honourable Gilbert Normand, Member of Parliament for
BellechasseEtcheminsMontmagnyL'Islet filed an objection
requesting the status quo for his electoral district and for the four other
existing electoral districts in eastern Quebec.
[135] He alleges among other things:
"…
Whereas the population of the constituency can no longer comment
on the final proposal made in the report to split the riding in two,
even though this had never been considered as a scenario.
…
Whereas the new constituency of Rivière-du-Loup-Montmagny
does not take the administrative regions of Quebec into account.
…
Whereas these significant administrative differences [which
he alleges in the preceding paragraphs] would create two classes of
citizens within the same riding.
…
Whereas the population of the new district of Rivière-du-Loup-Montmagny
would increase by more than 10,000, and affect the representation of
citizens."
[136] The Committee writes:
"121. The Committee understands and sympathises with Mr. Normand
and Mr. Crête. However, the return of their two ridings
to their original boundaries would have a ripple effect throughout the region.
It notes that the adjacent ridings on either side of Rimouski-Témiscouata
and Rivière-du-LoupMontmagny have not filed objections to their
boundaries. We reiterate that the suggestions made by Mr. Crête
and Mr. Normand are not feasible in conjunction with the suggestions
made by Mr. Farrah, and which the Committee has recommended the
Commission accept.
122. Furthermore, the Committee notes, just as for the objection filed by
Mr. Odina Desrochers (see below), their proposals hold
potential ripple effects for Lévis-Bellechasse and Beauce, and
perhaps beyond. The Subcommittee investigated whether there was an opportunity,
through the combined objections of Mr. Desrochers and the two
objections here, to solve the issues raised on both sides of the city of
Lévis, but could find no means to solve the distribution problems
raised by any of the three objections.
123. The Committee, with regret, cannot support the objections filed by
Mr. Crête and Mr. Normand regarding
the electoral districts of Rimouski-Témiscouata and
Rivière-du-LoupMontmagny."
Comments
[137] Pursuant to the public hearings, the Commission thoroughly reviewed
its proposals for the Lower St. Lawrence and Gaspé regions.
[138] It then deviated significantly from the electoral quotient for
three neighbouring electoral districts, GaspésieÎles-de-la-Madeleine,
MatapédiaMatane and RimouskiTémiscouata, without, however,
preserving three electoral districts that, according to the 2001 Census, were
all exceptional, since they deviated by more than minus 25%.
[139] The RCMs were kept whole.
[140] These changes, designed to protect the community of interest
while deviating as little as possible from intraprovincial parity, had
a domino effect that unfortunately necessitated changes to certain
electoral districts without notice to their inhabitants.
[141] The status quo sought by these two objections would have
repercussions throughout the region.
[142] The objection regarding the electoral districts of
GaspésieÎles-de-la-Madeleine and MatapédiaMatane
was accepted.
[143] The Committee's non-recommendation seems well founded.
Decisions
[144] The objections made by Mr. Paul Crête and
Mr. Gilbert Normand are dismissed.
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c) MéganticL'Érable and
LotbinièreChutes-de-la-Chaudière |
[145] Mr. Odina Desrochers, Member of Parliament for Lotbinière-L'Érable,
filed an objection that reads in part:
" 1. Whereas the prefect and all the mayors of the RCM of
L'Érable have expressed, through a resolution, their desire
to keep the existing name of the current electoral district of
LotbinièreL'Érable
2. Whereas the agencies and socio-economic representatives
of my electoral district have indicated that they wish to preserve
the agricultural and rural identity of the region, the only one of
its kind in Quebec
3. Whereas the St-Nicolas and St-Étienne-de-Lauzon
sectors of the new City of Lévis wish to remain in an electoral
district that includes the whole of the current geographical area of
Lévis
4. Whereas the RCM of Lotbinière refuses to be incorporated
into the City of Lévis, out of fear of being overwhelmed by an urban
centre, with 75 per cent of the demographic weight located in the western
part of the City of Lévis
5. Whereas section 15 of the Electoral Boundaries
Readjustment Act states that, in preparing its report, each commission
for a province shall take into consideration the identity or the historical
pattern of an electoral district in establishing reasonable boundaries."
[146] The Committee writes:
"127. Mr. Desrochers realizes that the current variance of +28%
for Lotbinière-L'Érable is not supportable under the legislation.
He proposes joining the RCMs of Lotbinière and L'Érable to St-Nicolas,
St-Étienne-de-Lauzon et St-Rédempteur. The
Chaudière River would become the natural boundary for the region. These
municipalities, in conjunction with the former municipality of Bernières
have worked together for several years to create economic development.
Hundreds of families from Lotbinière have settled in these three
municipalities.
128. To make up the numbers, Mr. Desrochers proposes that the municipalities
of the rural sector of Bécancour be annexed to the new electoral district
of Richelieu. The six municipalities of RCM Arthabaska could be placed together
in the new electoral district of RichmondArthabaska. St-Lambert-de-Lauzon
would remain [in] Mr. Desrochers's proposed constituency of
LotbinièreL'Érable.
129. According to data available from Elections Canada, the effect of
Mr. Desrochers' proposal on the affected electoral districts
is as follows:
| Beauce: |
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+5.8% |
| Levis-Bellechasse: |
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+38% |
| Megantic-Érable: |
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-34.5% |
| Richmond-Arthabaska: |
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+1% |
| Richmond: |
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-4% |
130. Obviously, changes to other ridings would have to be made to
accommodate Mr. Desrochers's primary goal of uniting
the two rural ridings. It seems unlikely that such large variances can
readily be accommodated without a severe cascade of boundary readjustments
throughout the region. The Committee investigated whether a minimal number
of readjustments would be able to solve the issue, but was unable to come
up with a solution. We sympathize with Mr. Desrochers
but see no means to achieve his objection."
Comments
[147] No objections were filed by the members of Parliament for
the surrounding electoral districts, which suggests they are satisfied
with the boundaries.
[148] The RCMs were kept whole.
[149] Recreating the electoral district of Lotbinière-L'Érable
is not an option because, like the Committee, the Commission was unable
to find a solution that did not create significant impacts on the surrounding
electoral districts.
[150] Moreover, in this case the name change requested by
Mr. Desrochers cannot be accepted; the name
L'Érable, which had appeal to many, has been given to the new
electoral district of MéganticL'Érable, which contains
the RCM L'Érable.
Decision
[151] The objection is dismissed.
Name changes
[152] The Commission which had drawn inspiration from the recommendations
of various commissions on toponomy, some of whose guidelines were cited in
its proposals, in its decision to use a single geographical not repeated name
to designate each federal electoral district. It is apparent from the comments
received, however, that the approach adopted by the Commission did not receive
unanimous support and approval. When writing its report, the Commission agreed
to modify its views and accept names with two elements. Even though there was
often no prior request to that end, the Commission here accepts the requests for
names with two elements supported by the Committee, as follows:
| By |
From |
To |
| |
|
|
| Mr. Ghislain Lebel |
Chambly |
ChamblyBorduas |
| Mr. Robert Bertrand |
Labelle |
LaurentidesLabelle |
| Mr. Guy St-Julien |
Baie-JamesNunavik |
NunavikEeyou |
| The Honourable Paul Martin |
LaSalle |
LaSalleÉmard |
| Mr. Robert Lanctôt |
Châteauguay |
ChâteauguaySaint-Constant |
| Mr. Yvan Loubier |
Saint-Hyacinthe |
Saint-HyacintheBagot |
[153] Subject to what follows concerning the special requests relative to
the names of the electoral districts in the City of Laval, the Committee sent
the Commission the following requests, which involve more than two components:
| By |
From |
To |
| |
|
|
| Mr. Mario Laframboise |
Trois-Seigneuries |
ArgenteuilPapineau
Mirabel |
| Mrs. Suzanne Tremblay |
RimouskiTémiscouata |
RimouskiNeigette
TémiscouataLes Basques |
[154] In addition, Mr. Paul Crête, Member of Parliament for
KamouraskaRivière-du-LoupTémiscouataLes Basques,
at the end of his objection, asked that his electoral district be
given the names of the RCMs it contains, that is, Kamouraska, L'Islet,
Rivière-du-Loup and Montmagny.
[155] The Committee does not appear to have expressed itself on
this request.
[156] Given the difficulty of choosing all the relevant geographical
elements in each electoral district, it was thought best to keep the names
given to the province's various electoral districts simple.
[157] It is in everyone's interest to choose names with only one element
for the electoral districts two as a last resort.
[158] Moreover, allowing further extensions at this stage might
offend those who, although they would have liked a name with more than
two elements, did not file an objection because the Commission had
clearly expressed its views on this matter in its earlier reports.
[159] Therefore, the Commission cannot accept the Committee's
recommendations regarding the name changes requested by the following
MPs: Mr. Mario Laframboise, Mr. Paul
Crête and Mrs. Suzanne Tremblay.
[160] However, in the case of the electoral district of Trois-Seigneuries,
this new name, which was chosen as a result of representations, seems
less appropriate. Even the person who suggested it has asked to revert to
the status quo. The electoral district will henceforth be called
ArgenteuilMirabel. This double-barrelled name has a historical
reference: the name Argenteuil has been associated with the electoral
district since Confederation. It also reflects the current reality:
the City of Mirabel is the most populous in the electoral district.
[161] The Commission agrees with Mr. Gilles A. Perron, Member
of Parliament for Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, and with the Committee,
that Rivière-des-Mille-Îles takes in a number of communities, including
Deux-Montagnes. It accepts the objection and the electoral district will
keep the name Rivière-des-Mille-Îles.
[162] As mentioned previously, the Commission did not think it wise
to reconfigure the borders of Laval. Names that make use of cardinal points,
which often create translation problems and are a source of geographical
inaccuracy and imprecision (such as the former electoral district of Québec
East), are to be avoided.
[163] However, the Commission will accept the first suggestion that
Mrs. Raymonde Folco made to the Committee. The electoral
district called Île-Jésus in the report is renamed LavalLes Îles,
even though this means that the neighbouring electoral district will contain
the element Laval.
[164] Mrs. Carole-Marie Allard, who had expressed doubts about the
name Duvernay suggested by the Commission in its proposals and who, in
a subsequent letter, suggested the name François-Berthelot, which the
Commission deemed acceptable in its report, is now asking for the name
Alfred-Pellan, if a name with a reference to cardinal points is not chosen.
[165] Although the Commission feels that the name François-Berthelot,
the second seigneur of Île-Jésus, the name of that island since 1636,
has a great historical connotation, it will accept Mrs. Allard's
new request and rename the electoral district called François-Berthelot in
honour of that great Canadian painter, Alfred Pellan.
Decisions regarding names
[166] The objection of Mr. Ghislain Lebel is accepted.
[167] The objection of Mr. Robert Bertrand is accepted, as stated above.
[168] The objection of Mr. Guy St-Julien is accepted.
[169] The objection of the Honourable Paul Martin is accepted.
[170] The objection of Mr. Robert Lanctôt is accepted.
[171] The objection of Mr. Yvan Loubier is accepted.
[172] The objection of Mr. Mario Laframboise is rejected. However,
the electoral district of Trois-Seigneuries will henceforth be called
ArgenteuilMirabel.
[173] The objection of Mrs. Suzanne Tremblay is rejected.
[174] The objection of Mr. Paul Crête is rejected.
[175] The objection of Mr. Gilles A. Perron is accepted.
[176] The objection of Mrs. Raymonde Folco is accepted, as stated above.
[177] The objection of Mrs. Carole-Marie Allard is accepted, as
stated above.
Conclusion
[178] The Commission hopes that the thoughts and efforts that went
into the proposals of August 31, 2002, the report of March 14, 2003,
and the decisions made here will facilitate the next electoral readjustment.
[179] In particular, the efforts made to attain a better numerical
balance of populations, rather than maintaining the status quo, should
smooth out future difficulties.
[180] However, the Commission recognizes that population movements
may mean that the work will remain complex and present equally
hearth-rending challenges.
[181] Therefore, the Commission's report dated March 14, 2003,
is subject to the changes approved in this text. The report thus modified
constitutes the final report of the Federal Electoral Boundaries Commission
for Quebec for the purposes of section 23 of the Act.
Dated at Laval, Quebec, this 11th day of August, 2003.

Honourable Pierre Boudreault
Chairman

Victor Cayer
Deputy Chairman

Pierre Prémont
Commissioner
CERTIFIED copy of the disposition of objections to the Report of the Federal
Electoral Boundaries Commission for Quebec.

Claude Despatie
Secretary
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